to send to us, you can logon to our website. caughtoncamera.msnbc.com. i'm contessa brewer. that's it for this edition of "caught on camera." you have seen us catch online predators. >> get on the ground now! >> men scouring the internet for sex with teens. >> she wanted it. that is what it seemed to me. >> this time we travel to rural georgia. what positions have you tried? and the men just keep on coming. among them, the religious. the young and inexperienced. what was your plan? >> i have been in a struggle myself, because i am still a

virgin. >> and one who fought for his country. you have been in iraq? >> yes, sir. >> you are expected to uphold a certain behavior. >> i won't do it again, sir. >> this is "predator raw." georgia was unique, not only because of the location out in a rural area, but also, because the law enforcement side of the investigation, you had a task force which was kind of the first time we saw local and federal law enforcement working together. >> scooby is at exit 125 at 85. this is scooby-doo coming for ivy. definitely the black wig. >> emily is back for the georgia investigation, a college student who looks a lot younger than she

is. she now has experience that she didn't have before, and she has become very skilled at being the on-site decoy. >> all right. guys, i'm ready to go. >> this is what he looks like? >> okay. >> here is the big picture, scoob, you look like that. >> is my mike on? is that red? does it mean low battery or what? >> check, one, two. >> yes. >> here we go. here we go. >> emily, get ready. >> slow, slow, slow. spin the camera. >> when you get into a rural area, the challenge is, in many

cases, the potential predator actually finding the house. >> there he is. all right, emily, he's coming in. >> awesome. i'm ready. >> he is getting out of the car. he is walking up, yeah, you can open up the door. >> hey! took you a while to get here. >> well, if you gave better directions, i would have found out where you live. >> i've taken stuff out of the dryer. it will take a second. i'm making some sweet tea. you can take some ice. i have to take some stuff out. >> all right. >> say what? >> i like to wash the sheets. i wash the sheets at my house. >> scooby doo walks in and he is very comfortable as he comes into the house. even talking about how goofed up her directions were. if somebody could give better directions, i would have been here sooner. and he jokes, and, you know,

then i come out. and the situation is not so funny anymore. you had a hard time finding the place or? why don't you have a seat right over there. i'm good. how are you? >> good. >> yeah. who are you? >> well, who are you? >> i'm dennis. >> why don't you have a seat, dennis. right over here. >> what is going on? >> what made you get in a car on a saturday night this late and drive an hour and a half to come to this house? >> i was bored. >> just bored. >> bored and wanted to hang out.

>> so how did you meet this girl? on the internet. and what did you guys talk about? >> a lot of different things. >> give me an example. >> i asked her if she was a virgin. >> why would you ask that question of a 15-year-old girl? >> i don't know. i apologize. but i didn't have any plans of doing anything at all tonight. >> did you bring condoms? >> no, sir. i have them in my car. >> so then you did bring condoms. >> yes, sir. >> so the answer to the question would be what? >> yes, sir. >> i keep them for -- >> for airbags in the car in case you get in a crash? >> you say do you ever masturbate? to a 15-year-old girl? what positions have you tried? hang on one second. what positions have you tried? >> oh, i'm an idiot. >> do you like to ride? do you like doggie? >> no, no, stop. >> then you ask, one more. you ask if you delete all those ims, when you're done.

i would hate to have your mom get nosey. i think it finally hit him that i got caught here. there's no way out of this now. and he's pacing, calling himself stupid, questioning why he did it. i'm chris hansen with "dateline" and we are doing a story on guys, adults trying to meet teens on the internet. now, you are obviously free to walk out of this house. but if there is anything else you would like to tell us about what won't here to that, what you did on the internet, we would like to hear it. >> i'm a stupid man. a stupid thing for me to do.

i didn't plan to do anything tonight. i just wanted to happening out. i had no plans. i had no plans. >> the harris county sheriff's department was in the game room next to our house. by the time he got ready to go, the harris county sheriff's department and the rest task force agents were in position to make the arrest. >> on the ground! now, on the ground! >> oh, please, don't hurt me. >> put your hands behind your back! >> please, god, don't take me to jail. >> thank you. >> what's up, man? how are you doing? you can't talk, huh? a straight face. it is hard sometimes. for the people in the situation. they giggle sometimes. i mean, i know you're just laughing inside. >> a bad idea. >> you were talking about taking her virginity, and how sex can leave a nasty mess. the experts suggest that when somebody does something like this, it is not their first time.

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it's on the table. i just got to put this stuff in the washer real quick. >> in georgia, the treat if you will is sweet tea which is a popular treat in the south. lester cruz comes in, sees the tea, pours haims glass and makes himself at home. >> have a seat. who were you going to see? >> i was going to meet her. >> meet who? >> your daughter. >> my daughter? what makes you think it's my daughter? >> i was just fooling around, sir. lester cruz makes it clear online that he knows what he is doing is wrong. he even tells the decoy not to tell her parents about the meeting, because in his words,

it could be considered statutory rape. so, have you ever been with an old guy before? no, i need you to stay in the chair, please. just, please. >> please, sir. i'm divorced. >> you're divorced and you have children? >> yes. >> how old are your children? >> three. >> how old? >> three. >> please, why don't you just have a seat in the chair. when i get there, i know the first thing i'll want to do is take a shower, so we can take the shower together. i will undress you and you can undress me. for a virgin to have sex, it hurts, so it's better to put some extra lubricant. >> i wasn't going to -- but i cannot do it. >> well, that's not consistent with what's here. page after page after page. you were in the military and have been to iraq. >> yes, sir.

>> when you joined the military, you were expected to uphold a certain level of behavior. >> i will not do it from now on, sir, i swear. >> how should i believe that? during my talk with him, he actually gets down on his knees, and i didn't think about it at the time, but looking at the tape, it was almost as if he was getting into the p.o.w. position. and this was a military guy who had served in iraq, so it made sense that when in trouble, you revert to this position, and i honestly believe that is what he was doing. >> i promise you, with my life -- >> you were talking about taking her virginity and talking about how sex can leave a nasty mess. the experts suggest when somebody does something like this, it is not their first time. >> it is the first time, sir. i swear. >> you ever watch television? >> yes. >> ever watch "dateline, nbc"

catch a predator show? >> i'm not a predator. >> i'm chris hansen with "dateline" and we're doing a story. if there's anything else you'd like to say, otherwise you're free to walk right out of this house. >> can i go? >> yes, absolutely. >> please don't -- don't -- don't put this on tv, please. don't put this on tv, please. >> no decisions have been made yet. >> i swear, i will never do this. >> i'm going to have to ask you to leave.

>> get on the ground. police. get on the ground now. get down, now. >> sit him up. >> what's your rank in the military? >> staff sergeant. >> staff sergeant? you recognize this receipt? >> yes, sir. >> it is something that you purchased? is it in the vehicle? the coke, the webcam, how about trojans, is that condoms? >> yes, sir. >> you brought condoms with you? >> yes, sir. >> if a guy talks about sex with a young teen online and talks

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the guy is coming in with a semi-tractor and he is seven miles out. >> there are a number of issues in georgia, and emily had to go back to college. she left. our producer, lynn keller, has a sister who lives not far away, whose a son, who had a friend

who is a young woman. got some training from perverted justice and she became our on site decoy. >> been on television more than anybody else. >> do i need to hide my hair? >> i would go ahead and just pull it back in a ponytail. >> okay. anybody have an extra ponytail holder? >> i have like 87 in my bag. >> put the hair on and then the hat. >> okay. >> hold it and put your head forward into it. like a swim cap. yeah. >> he's not going to want to stay if he sees this. >> that covers most of it. that's better. >> the hat does wonders for that wig. >> let me go and open it. >> this time, when you're doing that, all you're going to let be seen is with your hoodie. wherever he is, you are going to do this, so all he can see is

your arm and do the whole, hey, come on in, but keep yourself completely behind this, so he cannot get an outline of the figure. when you hit this mark, you don't even want to have your foot out. just your arm down can be seen. if you want, the back of your hair because it's black, that's fine. but nothing else. you're going to stay far enough away from him so he never has a shot of you like this. >> all right. tractor-trailer coming down the road. get ready. >> the white semi is him. okay. he won't be able to hear anything until he cuts the engine. okay. he is here. >> i have never seen anything like this. you know, we know he's a truck driver based on the conversation. we know he's going to show up in a truck, but i didn't think we

were going to see this massive semi-tractor. a rumbling diesel comes up, and puts the parking brake on, and climbs down and here he is. >> hey, you made it. come on in. i'm just getting some laundry out. make yourself at home. i made some sweet tea, sitting on the counter right there. have a seat. i'm just getting these clothes out real quick. >> they continue this conversation from one room to the other and it allowed us to kind of get a sense for what kind of guy this was, what he was up to, and it allowed her to be in the next room, out of the way. >> i would love to go for a ride some time. >> i'd love to take you. there's a lot of stuff out there to see. >> i bet. >> where exactly were you going to take her in that truck of yours?

>> for a ride. she wanted to go for a ride, i'll take her for a ride. i ain't mean no harm, try to do nothing i shouldn't be doing. not no pervert or nothing. try not to be disrespectful. >> he is a motor mouth. he is like a cartoon character. he was talking so, it was hard to understand what he was saying. you own that rig? >> no. >> you work for a company that owns it. how do you think they'd take you going out to meet a 13-year-old girl. they would look at it in a bad way. >> how did you meet her? >> the computer. >> yes, sir. >> and do you often get on the internet and chat up teenage girls. >> i don't get on the internet. she's the first girl. >> you know how many times i hear that? >> you hear it all the time.

>> why should i believe you? >> one or two times a month -- if i come in, i -- >> it was three minutes into the conversation she told you she was 15. you knew all the way through this. hang on, hang on, hang on. you say, well i do think you're damn sexy and was wanting to know if you ever had sex. >> oh, did i? >> yes, you did. i have it all here, so you may as well tell me right now. >> i am not disputing, but, damn, it is a conversation. >> what attracted you to this girl? >> it was her, just the way she was -- intelligent, just like you know, mature. like a lot -- >> she seemed mature. >> she had a logical head on her shoulders. she's easy to talk to. >> i think you'd look better in see-through tops -- sounds like you thought you had a hot prospect for a sexual liaison. >> i told myself on the way down here, just to talk and get

friendly with her and be friendly. >> i think you probably have a nice -- as well. >> just the knks, as she totally -- it was wrong and -- >> and honestly, if you were able, i would take you on trips. >> and honestly, if you were able, i'd take you with me on trips. >> i fell into the conversation. >> i need to tell you that i'm chris hansen with "dateline" nbc and we're doing a story on adults who try to meet young teens on the internet. if there is anything else that you would like to tell us, we're happy to hear it, and if not, you can leave the door you entered in. >> i told myself i came here just to talk to her, get to know her. just stay away from the sexual overtones. >> so you're trying to protect her. >> no, just telling myself. >> so, you were telling

yourself. i didn't see any mentoring going on. >> i said, when you get there, talk to her -- go to jail. >> well -- i have no control over the truck. >> i will ask them when i get out here. >> get on the ground, now! all the way down. all the way down. >> hands behind your back. >> let's get him up here. >> they find cocaine in his truck. that may explain why he was talking a mile a minute. he had a long wrap sheet for crimes including felony drug possession and about six misdemeanors. he'd been in trouble before. >> can i use the restroom? >> why don't you have a seat.

>> i just wanted -- i knew what it was.

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but i made some sweetie if you want some. it is good. it's just going to take a minute. come on in. huh? >> turn my car off. turn my car off. >> oh, okay. >> we think he's going to turn off his car and will come back. >> christopher cannon doesn't hang around long. when someone comes in and immediately asks to use the restroom, it creates a problem for us. you like to say, sure, but once that happens, you lose control. you don't know what is he is doing in the restroom, and you have no way of finding out, so it is trouble for us. >> can i use your restroom? >> why don't you have a seat real quick. >> i knew what this was. >> sir? >> i knew what it was. i just went to texas. that's all. >> what did you think it was? >> police! stop! stop! >> get on the ground. >> get down, get down. put your hands behind your back. >> no, no, no. >> christopher cannon didn't

stay for very long. he got scared and bolted. you would think the more investigations you do, the more people would know what's going on and would flee, but it's the opposite. the more we do it, the fewer guys flee. i'm not sure that's because they know law enforcement is doing a parallel investigation and they're going to get arrested or whether they want to just get this off their chest. just because he didn't stick around and talk to me didn't mean he was out of trouble. obviously he was arrested by the police and did an interview by the police later, and we had access to that. >> what we've got here, you being caught in a sting operation. that's whey you're in handcuffs.

who were you coming to meet? >> what was her name? you drove 115 miles. >> i know it. i kept saying, what are you doing? turn around. >> how old are you? >> 33. >> so, you are twice her age? >> i wasn't going to do anything. she was talking about the swimming pool and -- >> why would you even have a sexual conversation with a 15-year-old? >> i really tried to avoid her when i first met her. every time i'd get online, she'd initiate the conversation, flirt a little bit. >> you said you didn't initiate the conversation but actually you did. she never talked to you, and you said, hello, natalie, you ask her if she's wet. why would you care if a 15-year-old is wet? >> stupidity, man. i don't know why. >> you tell her you'll be gentle.

what are you referring to? >> just her boyfriend. nothing sexually, touching or -- >> chris, we have been doing this too long. >> i understand. >> i just saw your cross and you are probably a religious man, and you would probably feel better if you didn't come here, never came here. >> when i saw dateline, two months ago -- >> you show up in the middle of it. >> that is so sick. >> maybe you need some help. >> i'm sane, i guess i was just bored. can't believe this. will this go on like a record or anything? >> you're being charged. >> do you possibly need to be enrolled in counseling, maybe you have an addiction with the internet.

we live with it today. not at the church, but with somebody who can help you. and the judge makes it clear you will not go back to your job at the church but get professionally trained person to treat this. >> here you have a guy that's a youth director at a church. the judge makes it very clear that you will not be going back to this job after engaging in this activity. >> i'm going to suggest to you that as a condition of this bond, that you find another position in your church until this is resolved. working with minor children is not one from this point forward. do you understand that? >> yes. >> okay. >> square that with what's on your myspace website where you talk about jesus rocks. what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows...

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this thing we do, it takes forever to dial up all of these numbers. >> you just couldn't make this up. there we are, saturday afternoon and there's this massive wildfire and that causes a power outage and it knocks all yahoo! chat rooms offline. so for like nine hours the perverted justice decoys couldn't do their jobs.

not only was it a problem that day, it created a problem for the next day, because the decoys couldn't make dates for sunday. this had a very serious impact on our investigation. >> hey, matt. it's angel. where are you at? >> after the date is made and the potential predator says he's in fact coming over, they always have a follow-up phone call, so we kind of have a better sense of when these guys are going to show up. he had talked to cogburn, and kept track of him as he got closer to our house. >> walking up the walk towards the door. >> he may not even open the door. >> all right, now back up. he's right there. keep going.

>> hi, come on in. i just got to put this in the dryer real quick. >> okay. >> just take a seat, i'll put this in the dryer. if i don't, they will get really wrinkled. come on in and take a seat. >> all right. >> cogburn wanted a blond and emily isn't naturally blond, so we had to improvise and come up with a blond wig for emily to be seen at the door when cogburn shows up. >> did you have a hard time getting here? >> well, the road that i was looking for didn't show up. >> my fault with the directions. >> no, i got directions off my computer. >> why don't you have a seat there and get comfortable. you had a feeling what was going to happen? sit down, please. i need to talk to you about a couple of things and i think you're going to want to talk about it.

it is going to take a few minutes. why don't you have a seat. cogburn immediately recognizes me. one of the first investigations where we were seeing a number of guys who had seen previous "to catch a predator" investigations, and who showed up and stayed and chatted anyway. >> is this going to be on national television? >> sorry, what? >> the national news, all that stuff? >> which one are you talking about? >> channel 13, or nbc. >> nbc, like "dateline nbc." >> yes. >> i need you to take your hands out of your pockets. okay. what was your plan here tonight? >> i can't answer that. it's -- i don't want to because i've been in a struggle myself with what -- i'm still a virgin and i think it's stupid that i did this. >> how old are you? >> i'm 22.

>> 22. and how old was the girl you were chatting with? >> the girl said she was 13 or 14. >> 13 or 14. and you thought that it would be okay to come over here and visit a young girl, home alone. >> i wanted her to think it was okay. >> now, i'm looking at this chat log here. 16 minutes into this discussion, you asked if she can do deep throat. explain that to me. >> no reason to explain. >> how do you feel about sex? you on birth control or are you sticking with condoms? here's a guy, looks like the kind of guy anybody would be happy to have their daughter date.

you look at his myspace page. his hero is god. his motto is "jesus rocks." you got toys? i want you to square that with what's on your myspace website where you talk about jesus rocks and heroes, god. you need to know that i'm chris hansen with "dateline" and we're doing a story on adults who try to meet teens online. if there's anything else you'd like to tell us, we'd like to hear it. otherwise, you are obviously free to be on your way. as i'm finishing my conversation, i ask if there's anything else he'd like anybody to know. and he turns and says -- >> keep your genes in your jeans. >> your genes in the jeans? that's your advice? and it took me a few minutes to figure out what he was talking about, genes in your jeans, clever way of saying don't get yourself in one of these situations. >> get down on the ground! >> how did it go at the house today?

i'm just curious. >> i pulled up in front of the house, like she had said to. i got out, and she was coming up at the door. i saw she had a wig on. i thought, this is odd. i had a little bit of suspicion before i even got there. >> did you engage with the gentleman that talked to you? >> yeah. what happens with that, i don't know. he just asked me questions -- i took offense to it. i was going to walk out, initially -- i've been in like a mental struggle, but i didn't solely, deep down, have any intentions of doing anything. i enjoy meeting people. as weird as this sounds -- i've

been able to talk the way i talk and this is my punishment. >> in his interview with the detectives, he says that the most important thing he's got to do is call his employer and say that he can't make it in for work. on almost every level, he seems like a diligent kid, but this behavior online and the fact that he showed up to have this date. >> you say you're a virgin? >> yes, ma'am. >> it gets pretty graphic here. >> this is my dark side. >> okay, we all tend to have one of those. hey, it can be overcome. >> this is -- >> it's a hurdle. >> this is a slap in the face, to wake up and stop. i don't know what to say. >> you're saying it's normal to have sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> no, sir, i am not saying that at all. i am saying that this would be

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my perfect buddy, cody. he is a parolee. >> we know before cody green

even gets there that he could be trouble. he has got a history with police. he was on probation for drunk driving. he tells me in our discussion that he got into trouble again for, i guess, leaving the scene of an accident, and here he is about to get in trouble yet another time. >> he is not coming for handcuffs, but for the other things. >> he shows up in this fairly new, expensive cadillac suv. >> i'm up here. i've got to drop this in the washer. i'm making sweet tea. come on in. >> he comes in, he's got his cap on, he's ready to meet his dream date. >> i made some tea, it's on the table. did you bring me my chocolate? >> hey. >> why don't you just step right

over there, please. have a seat in that chair. please, sit down. i need you to sit down. you can tell me all about it, i promise. >> please, sir, i really drove this far for no reason. >> you drove this far for no reason. >> i swear to you, i asked her this. >> you asked who? >> i asked maddie. >> take your time. i'll let you explain the whole thing. >> i said if this is not what you're looking for, i want you to tell me that because i will come over and i swear i will just be with you and i will not touch you or anything like that. this is what i said. i will prove it to you. i will show it to you. >> you'll show me how? >> i'm a desperate person.

i need a girl in my life and if she really wanted to be my friend, that would be all i needed from her. i've never hurt anyone. i would not hurt her. >> what did you bring? >> chocolate. like she asked me. >> most likely there to get food for the decoy. >> why chocolate? >> yes, sir. that's what i will her i would bring. >> what about condoms? >> yes, sir, i have them, also, but that was not my intention. i swear to you, sir. >> what were you going to bring the condoms for? >> she told me to bring them. >> so you you did everything because she told you. >> yes, sir. >> then why did you send her pictures like this. >> she asked me to send nude pictures, i know. >> so there's a big difference between sending a photograph of

yourself and pictures of your genitals? it's not like the decoys are asking to be sent these pictures. did you say you ready to have my thang in your mouth? >> yes, sir. >> what do you mean by that? >> are you ready to have my [ bleep ] in your mouth? she was going with it. >> she wanted it? >> that's what it seemed like to me. >> she says you don't mind i'm a virgin -- you say if you don't mind me taking it from you. i would love it. i never have been with a virgin. >> i know it's not respectful, but i was just asking her. it wasn't like i was just looking for girls this young and looking to get in trouble. and efrgs like this. i was telling her this, this is illegal on phone conversations and online and stuff like that. i was like, you swear to me, you are not going to get me in trouble, and i swear i will never disrespect you.

that's what i was pretty much meaning. >> so you're the victim here? >> no, sir, i'm not. i came here for reasons like that. but if she really didn't want it sir, i swear to you, i would have never tried. >> but if she was open to the idea? >> yes. >> you would have had sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> probably, yes. >> why, because it's so alluring to have sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> it's just probably something you never have again. that would be probably the cleanest, best pleasure, i would say. >> the cleanest, best pleasure is to have sex with a 13-year-old girl? >> yes, sir. >> you can't meet girls who are 20 years old? >> no, sir, i can't. >> you have got that nice truck out there, and you got to clothes thing going on. >> that's material. girls look deeper for what they want in guys. >> there's something you've got to know. i'm chris hansen with "dateline" nbc. have you seen one of our computer predator shows before? >> no, sir. >> this is one of them. we are doing a story about

adults who try to meet teens online. if there is anything else you want to tell us, we'd like to hear it. if not, you're free to walk out that door. >> freeze, put your hands up. >> on the ground! on the ground! on the ground! spread out. >> all the way, all the way. there you go. all the way. >> based upon the items found in his suv, it looked like he was planning to spend the night. he had spare clothes, condoms, everything. >> what's this? follow him. follow him. >> he is not backing down, cody green. he gives the cameraman the finger. he is defiant until the end. >> we're going to need you to take a shower, shampoo and

change out and put on one of the black and white uniforms. >> you get caught once, you take your punishment and get help, move on with your life. but you get caught twice, that raises serious questions about your ability to be rehabilitated. i think a lot of these guys, once their caught, realize how stupid it was for them to do it. some of these guys just don't ever think it could happen to them. police, fbi, they do this investigation across the country everyday, but they can only be in so many places, so the odds are in the overwhelming side of the potential predator's favor of not getting caught. in spite of the challenges, we still had 24 guys show up in like four days. some of them have like four years or more in prison.